Saturday, March 11, 2006

Have You Been Treated Badly By a Review Board?

Review boards that use bullying, extortion, and censorship as regular business practices and that encourage clients to post "enhanced" reviews are a disgrace to the industry and demean both escorts and clients. And they make their money from us, escorts and clients. Unless a review board is supportive of fair business practices and of the dignity of both escorts and clients, it is nothing more than a parasite.

"Do what I say or I'll destroy you".
"Make me my money, bitch, and keep your mouth shut".

What does that sound like to you? Like a pimp maybe? Doesn't everybody hate pimps? Then why do we have corrupt review boards acting as defacto pimps? Without reviews, review boards can't generate income. They're counting on us, escorts and clients, to continue to generate income for them and while we're at it, smile, look pretty, and shut the fuck up.

Do we want to be these board's bitch? Ladies? Gentlemen?

If not, tell me why. Were you banned without cause? Did someone try to extort sex from you and threaten to use the boards to ruin your business if you didn't comply? Guys, did you have reviews not published because you refused to endanger escorts by saying they provided services that they did not provide?

Let me know. I think there are many of us; and if so, we have the power to make Escortlandia a hell of a lot better. As well, are there boards or resources that you think operate fairly? I can add them to the IWTB approved links in the sidebar.

Also...I am not sure there won't be some kind of retaliation for this, so use an alias if you think that may be a problem.

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Blogger Ashley Of Atlanta said...

I think ALL review boards are BAD NEWS to the industry. I got MYSELF banned then had to get my ATTY in ATL to send them letters to get them to remove my reviews.

Yes,I think that some men try to use the review boards to take advantage of the ladies. They want to be your BOYFRIEND or get FREE TIME!

I will never let a client try to use the boards against me, infact I think the ladies should start a REVIEW board for the men. We can post their photo, cell #, city they live in, their name and then describe the session with them in GRAPHIC BLOW BY BLOW detail! We can then RATE THEM on a scale of 1 to 10 like CATTLE. Let's see how THEY like it!

I suggest that ALL ladies delist with ALL review boards so the crap will stop. Also, if you know that a client is a "Poster" DO NOT see him. Post ALL graphic posters in ALL possiable places. Post any client that threatens you or stalks you.

Hugs to all..........ASHLEY

I really think that The Big Doggie and The Erotic Review are now owned by the same people. Tbd changed about a year ago and I NO LONGER want to be a part of them. They are NOTHING more than INTERNATIONAL INTERNET PROSTITUTION RINGS. I will be glad when the FEDS take them down.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it when whores say that no one has the right to shut them down or destroy their livelyhood.

You may be right if what you were doing is legal. But it is not. You do not have a right in this country, under the law, to make a living with illegal activities. The laws and people of this land have a right to shut you down. Nuff said.

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Anonymous Heather said...

These are my experiences and might not have any impact on the experience of others so might not necessarily belong in your bcl but all are certainly men who have gone out of their way to exploit at least one sex trade worker.

I will start with my most recent. The following is what Leslie posted on gterb.ca. His allegations following the poll are false and the poll itself is very degrading. I met him only once and he does not have any evidence to back up his complaints about me. I have no respect for a man who works on a professional basis through Eye Weekly, has his homepage on all the boards as Eyeweekly and goes out of his way to put a sp (me) up for judgement on an escort review board that is owned by a convicted violent criminal who also harasses and exploits sex trade workers. Leslie's false allegations are very serious. Someone who works with sex trade workers should NOT be exploiting them. You will see in his posts that if he degrades a sex trade worker that it will make him "feel better".

#1 02-15-2006, 11:08 AM
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Is Heather a flake? Yes or No?

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Hey... my first ever poll on here.

OK here it is. Seems I am now one of those many who are about to feel the wrath of Heather Fla er... I mean Lake. Yah... I been informed that I am now on her hit list. I made the grave error of calling her a Flake three times in total on public fourms. I guess three times and you are out right? Darn... why did I do that? Now I have to get a whole team of lawyers to battle the I'm sure onslought of serious charges coming my way.

Anyway... thought I would post this poll. Depending on the outcome... maybe help me to feel a bit better.

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#2 02-15-2006, 11:21 AM
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Farked up...

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Now I look like the flake. mLOL.

I did click on poll buton but for some reason... I don't know it's not working.

Anyway... was just posting for a joke... a laugh a day keeps the voices out of my head. Those voices that keep telling me to call my freind Winston and ask him to come out with me to degrade and harass women in the sex trade.

I'm just so sad also that I missed the Xmas party. That could have been prime hunting ground for me to go and get some SWS drunk and take advantage of them. Darn!

NOT!

Heather you really are a farkin FLAKE big time you dumb ass. I am a well known person in the adult trade who is not only an advocate for the biz... I'm am well known to go out of my way to HELP any women in whatever way I can in this biz. You should get some help girl... you REALLY need it.

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#3 02-15-2006, 11:26 AM
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Admin... maybe you can delete this thread and make the other same one into a simple poll to let people vote... Yes or No.


Thanks.




Thenighthawk

I had asked Fred Zed and Sheik to ask L to stop using my name in a derogatory manner on the review boards. Within minutes, L started a poll on gterb.ca which is owner by P. Peter Bosch (who owns Diamonds Escorts in Niagara Falls) who is a violent convicted criminal.

The allegations he posted are false and he is joining Winston aka Matthew and Mr. Bosch and Rueben(Glenny)in their hate campaign. They are lying in great detail to harass me. This is exploitation. L is also going out of his way to bump a threat with serious false allegation that Mr. Bosch (admin) is making.

Bottom Line - L is in breach of his contract and Eyeweekly is now liable in the court of law. L claimed that his superiors at Eye would laugh about it.

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:04 am Post subject: JohnQ aka grapes

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John Q aka Grapes

Only one escort has come forward claiming to have seen him. He has ED, Erectile Dysfunction. John Q has harassed several escorts and is being sued in Ottawa as we speak for harassing an escort in Ottawa.

John Q has sent me emails saying I am being watched by the police but will not answer as to what Police dept?


John Q aka Grapes has posted on other forums bashing sex trade workers. Be careful as he has harassed other people besides me



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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: Owner of Gterb.ca

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Paul Peter Bosch and his common-law wife Crystal of Diamonds .

Mr. Bosch owns Diamonds and gterb.ca This has already been proven. Peter can no longer lie about not owning gterb and he is very upset that I was the one who came forward with that information. There is a major conflict of interest when you own an agency and a review board. Mr. Bosch has harrassed many sp's that I know of. He has smashed a competing Escort Agency with a baseball bat and caused over 5 grand damage from being in a violent rage. I personally feel that he is the most dangerous person in this industry not only becasue of his anger but becasue he likes to get others busted and will call the cops to get others busted to get rid of competition, and most importantly because he has control over Glenny aka respectful aka 'its me aka r.u.k.

They are also attempting to defend at least one lawsuit with regards to their horrendous behaviour in this industry. The most recent in Ottawa.

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: Winston aka Matthew

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I have 50 reasons as to why Winston should be on every Undesirable list, I will provide some here. A picture of him would be a definite asset to protect any other sex trade workers who choose not to come into contact with him.

1. Winston degrades sp's. He can be very vulgar. Here he addresses an SP on gterb.ca which is the cesspool of the review boards.

"Frankly, I hope you get syphilis and your tongue falls out of your twisted little skull."



2. Winston addressing Monica and exploiting her.

#1 09-13-2005, 11:39 AM
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has anyone noticed

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that Mistress Monica, despite being laughed out of
here, continues to log on. In fact, she/it is here
almost every day.

Just what is it that brings her back to where she/it
is not appreciated?

3. Winston threats include intimidation - A call to his 'friends' at a Government Agency.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston

So here is how it stands. Either you back off and Morning Angel works out her problems with Nicki, or she can work out her problems with the CCRA.

The CCRA is like a glacier, exceedingly slow, but grinds everything to dust.

Wanna continue to be nasty? Then this will be my last post, but I will make that call to friends at the CCRA.

4. Winston has threatened at least one sp with his so calling Revenue Canada.


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Originally Posted by Winston
Morning Angel.

This horse#### of yours has gone on long enough.

You and Nicki are to make arrangements to sit down in a neutral place and work this out like adults.

If you don't think that I can enforce this request, ask yourself "who has my tax records? Who knows about my charitable "donations". The last time I checked, Al Capone went to prison for tax evasion.


Think long and hard.

5. Sp claims Winston broke into her home and trashed it.

#27 03-15-2005, 02:38 AM
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I was over at the condo replacing fuses and I can tell you 100% the police were there, and the issue of Children's aid did come out.


So you are over the Condo helping her to Unlock my bedroom door and helping her ruining my place and my furniture well its all on the record and soon the picture is going to be post here. Nice try but now I don't know who don't have a brain.

I don't have anything agains you Winston but for you claiming that you are over my Condo and helping her.

6.

Winston claiming he wears colours in downtown Toronto. An H.A. member would NEVER allow another wear their colours and this is against their policy. Winston is doing this to fool the board readers and members into thinking he has connections in Governenment and and elsewhere. I doube either is true.
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I've been through Paris France, London England, the Middle East, the New York airport (I forget which one) and the mean streets of Buffalo, so there really is no place in Toronto that I don't feel in control.

The last time I was in the Queen/Sherbourne area, the local druggies came up to me and called me "officer". What was even funnier was that a "scout" (marked Metro) car stopped for coffee and one of the uniforms asked me what division I was with.

About 2 years ago, I dropped a dancer off at a downtown location. She asked if I would like to come in for a beer with her BF and I said sure. The BF was a member of the H.A., and at one point he asked me to make a run for cigarettes for him. I tried to weasle out by saying it was a bad neighbourhood etc etc. He told me I would be perfectly safe, but that he would lend me a jacket.

It surprised me just how many people will cross the street to get out of the way at 3:00 AM when they recognize a leather H.A. jacket.


7. Winston has an obsession with the ladies that is not healthy. This is a problem that repeats itself over and over again. There is a pattern here that sould not be ignored.

WINSTON AT IT AGAIN.....

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Will someone please tell me what his obsession is with me??? Not only does he love to talk about me he makes up lies all the time. Did you know that the party on the 16th of Sept is my party? HAHA! He's just made a post on gterb about how I planned a party on the 16th to delibertly dispite the Night Hawk and Dahilla who ever that is. WTF! This is not even my party. I wasn't even in the planning of it. Why oh WHY can this guy not just shut his fucking mouth for once. Maybe I should've went on a date with the loser but I have much more class and respect for myself then that. I am starting to think that this guy is twisted in his own mind. He loves confrontation and I'm positive he cant live without it. Does anyone wonder why this guy is SINGLE?

Alana

http://www.gterb.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4621

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Anonymous Aster said...

On Anonymous-

What a patriarchal, authoritarian jerk.

Ashley-

I completely agree with you about the viciousness of The Erotic Review, but I think it's very important *NOT* to support the state power in shutting them down, at least on prostitution charges. State persecution of sex workers seems to me an obviously worse standing danger to all of us that The Erotic Review. I would support the state taking down The Erotic Review for exploitive business practice ('suck my herpes-infected dick or you are fired' is NOT a voluntary transaction). But it's the existence of the persecutory laws that give David Elms and the like such power in the first place. If the state couldn't shut any of us down, none of us would *need* a review board to get noticed or started, and there would be nothing to keep hundreds of boards popping up to compete with effective monopolies like The Erotic Review. But encouraging the state to shut down an 'international prostitution ring' is extremely dangerous! The state will use its power to go after all sex workers, and a patriarchal state will seldom go after established men while independent women exist as targets.

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Blogger Vanessa Sue said...

I was delisted once because I had said something negative (which I meant) about that board on another, totally seperate 'Ladies Only' board...go figure...yet I cannot say it enough: REVIEWS are not necessary!! I know many, many ladies who have NONE...it's all marketing and word of mouth. Stay well ladies! xoxo

5:02 PM  
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do escorts think their professions should be protected by the law? In the US it is not.

No one is saying that anyone should be allowed to stalk you hurt you physically in any way. But if there is a person in my building or living on my street and doing something illegal I want they arrested. Whether it is escorting or selling crack, both are illegal so expect my neighbors and I to have you shut down

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Blogger jane doe said...

I do understand what you're saying, but to me what consenting adults do together shouldn't be illegal in the first place. I am absolutely against the exploitation of minors and anyone being in the sextrade who don't want to be. But it seems to me that it being a crime for consenting adults to exchange sex and money makes it far more dangerous than it has to be for both the ladies and their clients.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hotbabes.to has stolen many ladies pics and are forcing them to advertise against their will. If the lady asks for their profile to be removed, hotbabes refuses. They are also allowing reviews on ladies with a no review policy. These reviews are not being verified to be true and anyone can post there to bash the ladies.

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Anonymous Heather said...

One of Terb.ca's main advertisers is The blue pages. It is administrated by Sardonicus who exploits ladies in this industry with vulgar, rude and scary posts. Terb/ca's Toronto moderator is Sheik and he is also a moderator at the blue pages. There are lies and hatred posted on this site.

If a lady in this industry speaks up they are considered crazy, deranged etc, but the men degrade us and encourage each other to do so as well. This is a hate crime.

Heather


http://www.thebluepages.com/forum/viewtopic.php?TopicID=2440

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Respectful aka Glenny

This guy is an ex-con and one of the most violent posters on the boards. He posted this to one of the ladies and he is terribly abusive.

"You don't know me or what I might be cable of so don't let your mouth find you in a bad situation.you could find yourself on a date with a pig farmer"

This guy is also a poster on gterb.com which is owned by Peter of Diamonds Escort Agency in Niagara Falls.

Beware!

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Anonymous MissJ said...

It amazes me the B.S. that goes on on the reviews and discussion boards I rarely posted because it just draws attention to you,sometimes the wrong kind, however after many months of debate I decided to withdraw my reviews from The Erotic Review due to the fact that there have been about 3 recent reviews (all good) written about me that were bogus upon contacting The Erotic Review about this I was asked for PROOF! why would anyone lie about bogus good reviews?

Just proves my point that the people working for them are as shady as they are ignorant.You would think that they would want reviews that were from legit clients,but this does not surprise me. I have heard stories from other girls about the shady dealings that goes on and so I told them to remove me reviews, they in turn sent a nasty email saying I was banned ,I think I`ll lose sleep for about oh 2 seconds over this one!

I do not have to answer to them or anyone for that matter,I choose to be a provider because I enjoy the life but also have an education in another field so providing is not a full time affair for me. I never liked the whole review process anyways and think any man that kisses and tells is just a loser for doing it,I prefer a real man that does not think he should have bragging rights just because he has seen a girl.

The fact that The Erotic Review chooses to ignore a provider when she speaks out regarding bogus reviews written by gentlemen seeking to gain access to the juicy details section is very very disturbing.

They also deleted a post I responded to asking about a website where the ladies can go to to write reviews and alerts of bad clients,so here it is ladies www.providerblackbook.com an excellant resource for providers to keep us safe.

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